He has had a profound influence on Western philosophy, along with his students Plato and Aristole. The primary evidence in this regard is the fact that multiple independent sources make reference to him in various ways.
Socrates was born in Athens in the year B. His family was not extremely poor, but they were by no means wealthy, and Socrates could not claim that he was of noble birth like Plato. All three of these men lived in Athens for most of their lives, and they knew each other. Socrates came first, and Plato was his student, around BC.
Begin typing your search term above and press enter to search. Press ESC to cancel. Ben Davis September 22, How does Strepsiades take his revenge on the Thinkery? What happens when Socrates Strepsiades first meets him? Why does Strepsiades burn down the Thinkery? Previous Next. Pheidippides He's the dude who gets his father into piles of debt and sets off the events of the play. He's Lazy and Mean When we're first introduced to the characters, we see Strepsiades unable to sleep because he's fretting about all this debt, while Pheidippides sleeps soundly and dreams of the horse racing that got them into this mess.
He's Spoiled and Arrogant When his father threatens to cut him off after he refuses to help the family get out of debt, Pheidippides retorts that he'll just run off to an uncle named Megacles, who is a big deal around those parts, apparently.
What's Up With the Ending? Tired of ads? Join today and never see them again. Get started. He exasperates the otherwise unflappable Socrates with his stupidity, and is ejected. Returning home after having glimpsed—though not understood—the wonders of the school, Strepsiades enjoins his son to enroll in his stead. Pheidippides, initially apprehensive, transforms into a willing pupil after witnessing a debate between the walking personifications of Just speech and Unjust speech, who happen to be roaming the grounds of the academy.
Crucially, Unjust speech puts on a finer display, thereby demonstrating to the impressionable young man a peculiar lesson about the nature of justice.
Just like his father, he also is taught that the gods of Athens do not exist. In their place, Socrates provides a materialistic account of nature—the impersonal vortex—which is the cause of all phenomena on earth. When he returns home, Strepsiades meets with a son transformed, a perfect philosophic product from the thinkery, thinking him to be a most useful instrument in evading his debts.
But soon, the men get into an argument over poetry. The father takes the side of the ancient poets. The son, after learning from Socrates that tradition is baseless, takes the side of the modern poets.
The argument ends with Pheidippides beating his father. Father-beating, then as now, was illegal in Athens. But Pheidippides, armed with his new dialectical skills, convinces his father it is just by nature for the wise to punish the unwise or, in this case, a son to punish his father. Unmoored by custom, positive law and fear of punishment from the gods, his fealty lies only with Socrates and the thinkery.
What derangement! How mad I was, when I even threw out the Gods because of Socrates. This, in broad outline, is the plot of the Clouds. Far from a simple farcical account of the philosophic life, the play is a warning from Aristophanes to Socrates on the precarious position the philosopher is in relation to the city. The Socrates we find in the Clouds is at once the same and different from the historical Socrates. He is similar insofar as his relentless quest to understand the nature of things goes; but he is dissimilar in that the historical Socrates seemed to have pivoted from natural investigations to political philosophy early in life.
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